Samsung Announces New Windows 10 Laptop Powered by Snapdragon Processor

Samsung just took the wraps off its newest Galaxy Book laptop: the Galaxy Book S. And the main highlight of the device is the fact that it’s powered by an ARM processor.

The device is powered by the Snapdragon 8cx compute platform. It’s an always-on, always-connected PC. Offers LTE connectivity and 23 hours of battery life.

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The design of the device is very identical to Microsoft’s Surface Laptop. There isn’t anything standout of the design of the device, and it’s pretty simple for a laptop. But it still has a pretty nice and simple design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiGkOVG73kc

Under the hood, the device comes with 8GB RAM, and up to 512GB of internal storage. Samsung says the new Snapdragon 8cx compute platform on the device will allow for 40% greater CPU performance than the Galaxy Book 2, and 80% greater graphics performance and added memory bandwidth.

Samsung says the device’s battery life will offer up to 23 hours of video playback on one charge which is pretty great. The device features a 13.3-inch FHD TFT display panel and comes with a Fingerprint Scanner for authentication via Windows Hello. It also comes with AKG stereo speakers with Dolby Atmos.

The device starts at $999, and it will be available in Earthy Gold and Mercury Graybeginning shades this September.

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  • IanYates82

    Premium Member
    07 August, 2019 - 5:22 pm

    <p>Hoping a review unit makes its way to Thurrott</p>

    • beckerrt

      Premium Member
      08 August, 2019 - 9:29 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447932">In reply to IanYates82:</a></em></blockquote><p>Agreed. I've been getting increasingly interested about Windows on ARM, this could be the one I finally purchase, pending favorable reviews of course. </p>

  • the escalation

    07 August, 2019 - 5:41 pm

    <p>LTE and 23 hours of battery life is nice, but at $999 I can't help but think this is DOA.</p>

    • rmlounsbury

      Premium Member
      07 August, 2019 - 6:04 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447938">In reply to the escalation:</a></em></blockquote><p>That all depends on how well the 8cx performs. If it is similar to what we've seen on earlier Windows on ARM attempts it is DOA. But if it can get into the ball park of even previous generation Core i5 chips then I'd imagine this thing will sell like crazy, </p>

      • skane2600

        07 August, 2019 - 6:19 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#447942">In reply to rmlounsbury:</a></em></blockquote><p>The key question isn't the raw performance of the processor vs Intel's, but rather its performance running Win32 programs that haven't been ported to ARM.</p>

        • Jorge Garcia

          07 August, 2019 - 8:05 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#447945">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>I really think you overestimate the amount of people who still need win32 apps in 2019. Sure, some percentage of businesses will have specific win32 apps that must be installed on everybody's device for the foreseeable future…but I think that a large swath of business-oriented people only need Office, email, a browser, and a PDF viewer/possibly editor. Media playback is a given. No one is buying a WOA machine for heavy photoshop or video editing….although those features are forthcoming to be sure. That being said, they do have to be very clear with potential customers.</p>

          • skane2600

            07 August, 2019 - 9:55 pm

            <blockquote><em><a href="#447955">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Most people buying PCs understand the role that Windows plays as a standard. Part of the value of Windows is knowing that you can run standard Win32 apps if you need to even if you don't run a lot of them today. For a lot of people a computer represents a significant investment and they don't want to suddenly find out down the road that the program they want to run isn't compatible or runs dog slow in emulation.</p><p><br></p><p>But as I've said before, anyone who uses their smartphone just for consumption, emails and other limited activities doesn't need a computer nor do they need a quasi-desktop environment. </p>

            • Jorge Garcia

              08 August, 2019 - 12:31 am

              <blockquote><em><a href="#447969">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Respectfully agree to disagree. I routinely see extremely clueless, or let's say non tech-savvy people painfully shopping for Windows laptops at Best Buy. They ask the most uniformed questions and you can see them struggling to even explain what they need. Why Windows? Because it is all they know, and they cannot afford to go the Apple route. There is an in between market there that is currently only being served by Chromebooks…but I will always argue that ChromeOS is not a really good fit for many. I'll stick with the Samsung engineers on this one. They wouldn't waste so much R&amp;D money on this if there wasn't a potential market there.</p>

              • michael_babiuk

                08 August, 2019 - 1:31 am

                <blockquote><a href="#447999"><em>In reply to JG1170:</em></a><em> See comment below.</em></blockquote><p><br></p>

                • michael_babiuk

                  08 August, 2019 - 1:32 am

                  <blockquote><a href="#447999"><em>In reply to JG1170:</em></a><em> The consumers you describe could definitely go the Apple route using the low cost current iPad models running iPadOS – which should fully run Google Office apps (like Docs and Sheets) with full macro support in iPadOS’s updated desktop class Safari browser. </em></blockquote><blockquote><em>In my opinion, that ability mentioned above would satisfy most person’s reasons for wishing to purchase a Chromebook. </em></blockquote><blockquote><em>By the way, this comment was created on a inexpensive iPad (purchased last holiday season) using a $30 dollar folding Bluetooth keyboard. I wish I could tell everyone the name of it but I will state that it is an Amazon Choice product. </em></blockquote><p><br></p>

                • Pbike908

                  08 August, 2019 - 11:04 am

                  <blockquote><em><a href="#448008">In reply to Michael_Babiuk:</a></em></blockquote><p><br></p><p>Once (IF) Apple fully enables trackpad/mouse support in IOS, I think it's quite possible an Ipad can replace a Windows or Mac for 85% of folks including me. The application that I run regularly that just doesn't work properly on Android, IOS, or a Chromebook is Spotify. in Spotify, it is simply impossible to effectively edit playlists in anything other than the Mac or Windows app.</p>

              • skane2600

                08 August, 2019 - 1:48 am

                <blockquote><em><a href="#447999">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Sounds like the same exact scenario when people buy mobile devices. Why iPhones? Because all their friends have one. Then they ask the same sort of uninformed questions concerning which iPhone they should buy. </p><p><br></p><p>But the point is that you don't need to be tech-savvy to understand that standard devices have value. </p>

          • marius_muntean

            21 August, 2019 - 5:55 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#447955">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>If what you say would be true, then those people would already have rushed to buy previously launched winarm laptops..which did not happen. Defending this arm on windows is getting ridiculous…average Joe wants to use the app Y,X,Z that 99.99% is not ported to arm and most of it, is x64, which will never run emulated.</p>

  • Sykeward

    07 August, 2019 - 5:43 pm

    <p>I'm really interested to see what the performance is like with this chip, especially with the graphics where a lot of the improvement seems to be. A big issue that reduced the Qualcomm 850's performance was that a lot of applications that use the GPU for compute couldn't utilize the 850's mobile-type GPU.</p>

  • skane2600

    07 August, 2019 - 6:01 pm

    <p>Or you could buy a under-$500 laptop and probably get better performance on real Windows programs.</p>

    • solomonrex

      08 August, 2019 - 11:37 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447940">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Not with LTE built-in. Not that thin. Not with a fingerprint reader.</p><p><br></p><p>It's definitely not for everyone, but it's a very compelling device for what it is, particularly with the death of the small MacBook.</p>

      • solomonrex

        08 August, 2019 - 11:38 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#448105">In reply to solomonrex:</a></em></blockquote><p>And the constant death of macbook keyboards. Sigh.</p>

      • marius_muntean

        21 August, 2019 - 5:51 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#448105">In reply to solomonrex:</a></em></blockquote><p>This is not the first winarm laptop that ever came to the market. Previous ones came the same not too long ago, and every ms fan out there was all over, when in fact no one else gave a damn about them. these arm devices should sell at max $300 considering you are limited to arm apps and that ghost yard app store. Win32 apps run like crap and those built on x64 do not run at all.</p>

  • rmlounsbury

    Premium Member
    07 August, 2019 - 6:06 pm

    <p>This thing will live and die by how well the 8cx can run Windows 10. if it is what we've seen in previous Window on ARM devices then it is pretty much dead in the water. But they can get this to perform in the same ball park of even previous gen Core i5 chips I have to imagine this will sell a lot of units. </p><p><br></p><p>It's the ultimate unicorn in the Windows world. Massive battery life with full blown Windows 10 in a thin and light package. It all comes down to how well that ARM chip can perform. </p>

  • jaredthegeek

    Premium Member
    07 August, 2019 - 6:12 pm

    <p>Its beautiful but performance of WARM has not been stellar. </p>

  • Shamir Dasgupta

    07 August, 2019 - 7:09 pm

    <p>"<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">The design of the device is very identical to Microsoft’s Surface Laptop." minus the carpeting! Yes!</span></p>

    • jgraebner

      Premium Member
      08 August, 2019 - 3:11 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447949">In reply to Shamir_Dasgupta:</a></em></blockquote><p>That kind of struck me as an odd statement as it clearly isn't identical to the Surface Laptop.</p>

  • Jorge Garcia

    07 August, 2019 - 7:56 pm

    <p>I just love how Samsung is not waiting and pushing forward. ARM is the future. If you can't dual-boot into DeX now, you will be able to someday.</p>

    • skane2600

      07 August, 2019 - 8:06 pm

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447954">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>It's a laptop, it provides a desktop experience out of the box. What would you need DeX for? Or was this just an off-topic promotion of DeX?</p>

      • Jorge Garcia

        07 August, 2019 - 8:37 pm

        <blockquote><em><a href="#447956">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>As hard as you may find this accept…Microsoft Windows is off-putting to some ever-expanding % of people that still need or want to use a laptop for whatever reason. Having an alternative experience that has GOOD manners akin to those of a smartphone (proper standby/painless updates/etc), but can still view and manipulate files like a "real" desktop PC can…can potentially appeal to a whole lot of people. I believe that it's one of those things you didn't realize you wanted or needed until you have to go back to the old way. I don't think that Samsung is blindly walking down this "oddball" path…they have clearly studied normal (not geek) human behavior/likes/dislikes and are slowly trying to do what Microsoft has failed to do…bring Windows out of the 90's. DeX/iPadOS are just two early iterations. There will be others. Microsoft would be smart to release that "Other" soon or they risk losing laptops they way they botched mobile. Mind you, I'm not saying they should ditch "full-on" windows…it is still necessary for many, many purposes…only provide a gimped alternative to it that satisfies the laptop needs of 80% of people.</p>

        • skane2600

          07 August, 2019 - 9:46 pm

          <blockquote><em><a href="#447962">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Still has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Having said that, characterizing smartphone idioms as "good manners" is very strange IMO. Like most smartphone makers Samsung wishes to have features that differentiate them from the others but I doubt even Samsung believes their smartphones via DeX are going to replace laptops. The fact that they are still offering new laptop designs to the market is very good evidence that they don't consider this a viable scenario.</p>

          • Jorge Garcia

            08 August, 2019 - 12:46 am

            <blockquote><em><a href="#447968">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>You don't find it well mannered when a portable, untethered device that has been left unattended due to an important phone call or something goes into perfect deep sleep and keeps almost all of its battery intact until the next time you unlock it, even if days or WEEKS have gone by? I'm unaware of any x86 laptops that can pull that feat off, but I do know that every iPad does and some high end Android tablets as well that do just that. That feature alone is huge and normal people who just want to "use" their tech love that paradigm. Now add the way mobile devices update the incoming app data, the way they update in the background, and the way you can very easily install and uninstall software…and I think you are purposefully blinding yourself if you don't see those traits as well mannered compared to old-fashioned computing on a traditional Windows laptop. I know windows has improved a lot in those areas, but it's never going to get there as long as it stays on x86.</p>

            • skane2600

              08 August, 2019 - 1:31 am

              <blockquote><em><a href="#448002">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Sounds like a very contrived scenario. I think most people who would leave their device alone for days or weeks wouldn't even remember what they were trying to accomplish when they got that phone call. The much more likely scenario is you get off the phone and immediately return to your computing activity. </p><p><br></p><p>One of the weaknesses of smartphones is their tendency to suspend or kill running applications without the least by your leave. It's an understandable feature for a device that has limited battery capacity and has to use power to maintain an RF presence to work as a phone.</p><p><br></p><p>As I've noted before, how difficult it is to install applications on Windows is entirely in the hands of the developer of the application. As you would expect, mobile applications with limited capabilities require less setup than more sophisticated applications and when mobile applications are more powerful setup can end up leaking into the post-install activities.</p>

              • wright_is

                Premium Member
                08 August, 2019 - 7:20 am

                <blockquote><em><a href="#448006">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Timely updates are also something that Android drops the ball on. Even on my Mate 10 Pro, I get the updates usually a month after they have been released, sometimes 2, Samsung and the other big players are the same. Some cheaper devices, you are lucky to get updates at all.</p><p>Only the Google's own devices get security updates in a timely manner, because Google releases the updates for its devices at the same time it releases the source code to other manufacturers and how long it takes the manufacturers to get the updates out is anybody's guess, but a minimum of a month of being exposed to critical security flaws should be calculated into your security profile when using Android devices not from Google.</p>

            • jimchamplin

              Premium Member
              08 August, 2019 - 10:16 am

              <blockquote><em><a href="#448002">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>Plug it in. If it won’t be in use for as you say, weeks, just plug the thing in. That’s what most people do. </p><p><br></p><p>My portable PCs spend around 90% of their time plugged in.</p>

              • wright_is

                Premium Member
                08 August, 2019 - 10:35 am

                <blockquote><em><a href="#448088">In reply to jimchamplin:</a></em></blockquote><p>If I'm not going to use it for weeks at a time, I shut it down and put it in a cupboard…</p>

      • marius_muntean

        21 August, 2019 - 5:48 am

        <blockquote><em><a href="#447956">In reply to skane2600:</a></em></blockquote><p>Maybe because native apps run like crap on winarm, and store apps are a joke. Dex has a Linux mode as well.</p>

    • wright_is

      Premium Member
      08 August, 2019 - 7:08 am

      <blockquote><em><a href="#447954">In reply to JG1170:</a></em></blockquote><p>DEX is a method of getting an Android phone to display on a bigger screen, it is not an operating environment. The laptop already has a bigger screen and has video out, so no need for DEX.</p><p>If you mean dual-boot with Android or Chrome, that is a whole different kettle of fish.</p>

  • skane2600

    08 August, 2019 - 1:40 am

    <blockquote><em><a href="#447996">In reply to warren:</a></em></blockquote><p>It depends on what "most tested applications" mean. Are they unmodified Win32 applications and if so, which ones? At the end of the day, it only matters to a customer what the performance is for the applications they use.</p>

  • jimchamplin

    Premium Member
    08 August, 2019 - 6:17 am

    <p>I hope it’s the greatest machine that ever crushed the dreams of naysayers. ?</p>

  • skane2600

    08 August, 2019 - 10:38 am

    <blockquote><em><a href="#448035">In reply to dontbeevil:</a></em></blockquote><p>Yes, if the physical aspects are more important to you than performance and you operate in an environment where you can access the Internet only via the cell network, than this more expensive device would be preferred.</p>

  • skane2600

    08 August, 2019 - 10:42 am

    <blockquote><em><a href="#448036">In reply to dontbeevil:</a></em></blockquote><p>I think you're talking about two different groups of people. Most people don't own $999+ smartphones. </p>

  • solomonrex

    08 August, 2019 - 11:39 am

    <p>What is the browser situation for win10 on ARM? Edge during this transition has become quite unreliable, and none of my IT department issued stuff is compatible it seems.</p>

  • Patrick3D

    08 August, 2019 - 11:59 am

    <p>$999 for an ARM based laptop sounds as ridiculous as $1,099 for a Chromebook.</p>

  • marius_muntean

    21 August, 2019 - 5:47 am

    <p>$999 for a winarm laptop…not quite there. You can get a good laptop that's capable of running x86,x64 apps natively at that price. $999 just for the extended batteryife, is not worth it and previous winarm laptops proved this…no one bought those.</p>

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